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		<title>Proposition 8 is Winning</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cranky one</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not in California, nor am I an American, and yet the news that Proposition 8 is winning is just as depressing for me, as if I was a Californian. I am Gay and Damn Proud of It, but it seems that these days, that is not such a good thing. Whether one lives [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not in California, nor am I an American, and yet the news that <strong>Proposition 8</strong> is winning is just as depressing for me, as if I was a Californian. <strong>I am Gay and Damn Proud of It</strong>, but it seems that these days, that is not such a good thing. Whether one lives in California or even in Canada, Homosexuals are under attack, literally, from the so called <span style="color: #0000ff;">Religious Right</span>.</p>
<p><strong>Proposition 8</strong> is about denying same sex people from being Married, that the <strong>California Supreme Court</strong> ruled on, saying it was required under the U.S. Constitution. Now many people are rushing about with their heads chopped off, in pure panic, that <span style="color: #0000ff;">Gay Marriage</span> will somehow make gay sex a course in elementary schools, will make us Homosexuals convert more naive boys into being sex toys.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>HOW BIGOTED.</strong></span></p>
<p>And yet that is what is happening, as the supporters (not all, but a fair number) are saying. They use <strong>FEAR</strong> and outright <strong>LIES</strong> to scare people into supporting their Proposition, which is to <strong>DENY GAYS EQUAL RIGHTS UNDER CIVIL LAW</strong>.  This isn&#8217;t about forcing <strong>ANY CHURCH</strong> to recognize Gay Marriage, or force any <strong>SCHOOL</strong> to teach <strong>GAY SEX</strong>.  It is about being able to live as God Created Us, as <strong>Gay Men &amp; Women.</strong></p>
<p>The amount of money being spent by these people is amazing. Largely in thanks to the various <span style="color: #0000ff;">Ultra Conservative Evangelicals &amp; the Mormon Church</span>. So it is time for those who truly believe in Democracy, in <strong>FREEDOM OF RELIGION</strong> to reach into their pockets and support the <strong>NO ON PROP 8</strong> people.</p>
<p>This is <a title="donate here to NO on Prop 8" href="https://secure.ga4.org/01/their_lies_are_working?source=emaila" target="_self"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>WHERE YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE</strong></span></span></a>.</p>
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		<title>Homosexuality is a Mental Disorder</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cranky one</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has to be, given the abuse we all sit back and take from the so called &#8216;normal&#8216; people out there. I really wonder at times, what drives people to being so racist, so intolerant? Just who have we (homosexuals) pissed off so much, that they convince people we are sick, perverted, evil, sinners, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has to be, given the abuse we all sit back and take from the so called &#8216;<span style="color: #0000ff;">normal</span>&#8216; people out there. I really wonder at times, what drives people to being so racist, so intolerant? Just who have we (homosexuals) pissed off so much, that they convince people we are sick, perverted, evil, sinners, and mentally unbalanced? I really would like to know, so maybe Stephen Harper, George Bush, and others could enlighten me. After all, they are leaders of those who hate me.</p>
<p><strong>I am rather dismayed at the hatred being show, even up here in the land of supposed tolerance, Canada</strong>.</p>
<p>In a province, a school district elected to refuse a noted Gay Author (Alex Sanchez) from speaking to students in the district. It made the CBC News because well, it is newsworthy. I mean after all, this is Canada, and that kind of Racism doesn&#8217;t go up here, or does it? After reading many of the comments that follow the story, from so called average Canadians, I feel rather ashamed of Canada. Well, not Canada, but those who have posted their vile hatred, for all to see.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Alex Sanchez writes books about gay youth and their struggle to find  acceptance, but local school principals were not comfortable allowing him to  address their students.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Jay Remer, spokesman for the Charlotte County Rainbow Support Group, said  Sanchez is a terrific public speaker whose message is about tolerance.</strong></p>
<p><strong>He said Sanchez’s mission is “to help the gay youth in the community to feel  less isolated and more part of the community as a whole.” (source -<a title="more here" href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2008/10/10/gay-author-schools.html?ref=rss#socialcomments" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> CBC News</span></span></a>)</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>While there are a fair number who are trying to make the case, that differences aren&#8217;t evil, that one&#8217;s interpretation of the Bible isn&#8217;t everyone&#8217;s, it just seems so depressing. I do not understand people, that hate so much, and I wonder, what is it that I did to them? I am Gay, <strong>PROUD OF IT</strong>, but I wonder at times, about my fellow man. How can they hate me, simply because I love another man? They don&#8217;t know me, so how can they sit in judgement of me, and my lifestyle?</p>
<p>Then too, there are those who still actually believe that not only is being gay a choice, but that many see the light <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>and return to being normal</strong></span>.</p>
<p><strong>So just what is Normal by their definition?</strong> Is it to wage war based on lies? How about that Whites are the Superior Race, when the truth is, Whites are actually a minority, just as Christianity is a minority as well. And yet they seem to be willing to accept that it is the only real religion, and that only their own view of it, is the right path.  Now I don&#8217;t know about them, <strong>but I believe in God</strong>. I believe he is a kind &amp; loving power, that has made some tough choices, one of which is granting us Free Will. I believe he cares for all of us, and if the purported last words of Christ on the Cross are true, then how can he hate me for being Gay?</p>
<p><strong>How can anyone believe, that GOD can hate any of his children?</strong></p>
<p>I simply do not understand it, but then I am mental, so some of my fellow Canadians believe, while at the same time telling me their God loves me, but only if I deny who I am, who he created. It is sad, but it is life today in 2008. <strong>Makes you wonder, did we slip into a time warp somehow, and this is really 1933?</strong></p>
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		<title>I Want to Hear it From Him</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cranky one</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barack Obama&#8217;s wife spoke about what her husband, if elected, would do for Gay Rights, as he did for Black Rights, in that he would push for equality, for opposing a ban on same sex marriage on a federal level, leaving the matter for the States to decide. Fact is, 44 States have some form [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama&#8217;s wife spoke about what her husband, <strong>if elected,</strong> would do for <span style="color: #0000ff;">Gay Rights</span>, as he did for Black Rights, in that he would push for equality, for opposing a <strong>ban on same sex marriage</strong> on a federal level, leaving the matter for the States to decide.</p>
<p>Fact is, <strong>44 States</strong> have some form of state constitution amendment banning same sex marriage. So what is he going to do about that little obstacle?</p>
<p>So does his support mean anything, and is this just another &#8216;<span style="color: #0000ff;">surrogate</span>&#8216; telling an audience what they want? I would like to hear <strong>Barack Obama</strong> take that stand, make that pledge himself.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>NEW YORK &#8211; Barack Obama will fight for equal rights for gays just as he fought to help working-class families overcome poverty, the Democratic presidential hopeful&#8217;s wife told a gay Democratic group. (source &#8211; <a title="more from MSNBC" href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25412133/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">MSNBC News</span></span></a>)</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe it is just that Gays have been led down the garden path before. Remember <strong>Bill Clinton</strong> who lovingly gave us &#8216;<span style="color: #0000ff;">Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell</span>&#8216; and let&#8217;s not forget the other candidate,<strong> John McCain</strong>. He opposed a federal constitution amendment, but worked hard to get one passed in his home state. So just how <span style="color: #0000ff;">Gay Friendly</span> are either of these candidates?</p>
<p>While Obama has said that <a title="Gay Talk on DADT and discrimination of gays" href="http://www.gaystoryman.com/talk/index.php/2007/05/18/carter-opposes-dadt/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>DADT</strong></span></span></a> <span style="color: #0000ff;">(Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell)</span> is counterproductive, he <strong>HAS YET TO SAY HE&#8217;D REPEAL IT</strong>.  Even <span style="color: #0000ff;">Hilary Clinton</span> <strong>NEVER</strong> said she would either, and we know <span style="color: #0000ff;">John McCain</span> isn&#8217;t about to, given how he thinks it works just fine.</p>
<p>Makes you wonder, how can anyone run for President when they <strong>ARE NOT PREPARED TO STAND UP FOR EVERY CITIZEN</strong>. I mean are Gay&#8217;s simply not have the <strong>VOTING CLOUT</strong> of say the <strong>EVANGELICALS</strong> that both <span style="color: #0000ff;">Obama &amp; McCain</span> are cozying up to?  Heck, they must have the <strong>CLOUT</strong>, given how they seem to feel it is their <span style="color: #0000ff;">God Given Right</span> to choose the <strong>REPUBLICAN NOMINEE</strong>.</p>
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		<title>Missing the Point</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cranky one</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Making it marriage is not just about financial benefits. It is about sending a powerful message to those who blindly hate others, for no reason but their differences. It is about ending the cycle of bullying, of violence against people who are different. Calling it something else, is just pandering to those fears, to those who justify their racism &#038; violence. Marriage is a symbol, one that all people are entitled to under civil law, because all laws apply to all people, equally. You can't pick who any single law applies to, for if you do, then that is discrimination.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Gay Talk opinions, debates, discussions" href="http://www.gaystoryman.com/talk/" target="_blank"><img style="border: 0pt none ; margin: 0px 12px; float: left;" title="Bill of Rights" src="http://gay-247.com/comments/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/document.jpg" alt="Gay Talk for opinions and more opinions" width="175" height="193" /></a>At times, <strong>Marriage</strong> seems to dominate my thinking.</p>
<p>Not sure why, except that I think way too many people are missing the finer points of why we need to have it clearly stated, across the Globe, that two men or two women can be <a title="Gay Talk on what a marriage license means" href="http://www.gaystoryman.com/talk/index.php/2006/01/21/more-than-a-piece-of-paper/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>legally bound in Marriage</strong></span></span></a>. Now, that doesn’t mean any <strong>Religious Order</strong> has to perform that ceremony, or even acknowledge it, but it does mean that our Government <strong>MUST</strong>.</p>
<p>While there are practical benefits, financial ones as well, there is another more important reason <strong>WHY IT HAS TO BE MARRIAGE</strong>. To begin with it is about the <strong>CHILDREN</strong>. I know, it sounds a bit odd, but kids learn racism, hatred, and <a class="answerlink" href="http://www.answers.com/topic/bigotry?nafid=22">bigotry</a> from the Adults and Society. If we teach them that being different is somehow evil, somehow <strong>UNGODLY</strong>, we are teaching them <strong>HATRED</strong>.  Take how the Religious Right objected to the simple fact that in the popular children’s book series, Harry Potter, that <a title="Gay Talk on the outing of Dumbledore" href="http://www.gaystoryman.com/talk/index.php/2007/10/25/outing-dumbledore/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Dumbledore was Gay</span></span></a>.</p>
<p>When you have Presidents, Popes, and other Authority Figures going around saying that it is vital for the moral well being of a nation to <strong>DENY EQUAL RIGHTS</strong> to a portion of their society, it sends a signal to the kids. It tells them that <strong>Gays Aren’t Equal</strong>, are somehow bad. It leads to taunts, to bullying in schools, and it leads to violence. <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Just ask the parents of <a class="answerlink" href="http://www.answers.com/topic/matthew-shepard?nafid=22">Mathew Shepard</a>.</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong></strong></span>Having the <span style="color: #0000ff;">right to Marry</span> won’t end that kind of thinking, but it goes a long way to ending it. Yet it does more than that, because it also becomes a symbol for <strong>Gay Teens</strong>. It says to them, while they recover from the physical and mental abuse of their peers, that there is <strong>HOPE.</strong> It says to them, as they contemplate ending their young lives, that things can change, that<strong> AUTHORITY DOES RECOGNIZE THEM AS BEING EQUAL</strong>. It says that they are just as worthy of being a part of society as any heterosexual is.</p>
<p>And that is a<strong> POWERFUL SYMBOL</strong>. <span style="color: #0000ff;">It can make the difference between a gay teen becoming one more suicide statistic,</span> <strong>OR NOT</strong>.</p>
<p>A leading cause of death among <span style="color: #0000ff;">Gay Teens</span>, <strong>IS SUICIDE</strong>. By doing what is right, by not highlighting the differences, we can help make that a non issue. By granting of <strong>MARRIAGE</strong>, we say to the Gay Teens that they are not <a class="answerlink" href="http://www.answers.com/topic/the-pariahs?nafid=22">pariahs</a>, that they are not evil or worse. Now I don’t know, but from all I have read about<span style="color: #800080;"> Jesus Christ</span>, that is sort of what he stood for, to take unto him the unpopular? Makes one wonder why it is <strong>HIS CHURCH</strong> that is so adamant about keeping <span style="color: #0000ff;"><a class="answerlink" href="http://www.answers.com/topic/the-homosexuals?nafid=22">homosexuals</a> in the closet</span>, <strong>doesn’t it?</strong></p>
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